Sunday, December 2, 2007

A Day Without Illegal Immigrants

Can you imagine such a thing? Republican Presidential candidate Tom Tancredo (R) can. In fact, he salivates over the prospect. In 2006, Tan-cretin (the space cadet in the picture above) published an article in the National Review Online (where else?) in which he mused about the white anglo-saxon utopia that would undoubtedly blossom in the absence of all the dirty illegal aliens.

Said Tancredo,
If the “Day-Without-an-Immigrant Boycott” had been held a year earlier on May 8, 2005, and illegal alien Raul Garcia-Gomez had stayed home and did notwork or go to a party that day, Denver police officer Donnie Young would still be alive and Garcia-Gomez would not be
sitting in a Denver jail awaiting trial. If the boycott had been held on July 1, 2004, Justin Goodman
of Thornton, Colorado, would still be riding his motorcycle and Roberto Martinez-Ruiz would not be in prison for killing him and then fleeing the scene while driving on a suspended license.
...Our highway patrol and county sheriffs would have about far fewer DUI arrests and there would be a dramatic decline in rollovers of vanloads of illegal aliens on I-70 and other
Hard to argue with solid numbers like "about far fewer" and "a dramatic decline". Tancredo went on to enlighten us on the effect of illegal immigrants on the construction industry.

On a Day Without an Illegal Immigrant, thousands of workers and small contractors in the construction industry across Colorado would have their jobs back, the jobs given to illegal workers because they work for lower wages and no benefits. (On the other hand, if labor unions continue signing up illegal workers, no one will be worrying about Joe Six-Pack’s loss. Sorry, Joe, but you forgot to tell your union business agent that your job is as important as his is.)
So, in case you weren't keeping score, if illegal aliens disappeared, Colorado streets would be safer, good ol' boys would still be alive, and "Joe-Six Pack" would be consuming said product on a job site instead of at home. Oh and one more small thing - Tom Tancredo (R) wouldn't have an elaborate entertainment complex added onto his home.

When Tancredo hired a construction crew to transform his drab basement into a high-tech pleasure den in October 2001, however, he did not express concern that only two of its members spoke English. Nor did he bother to check the workers’ documentation to see if they were legal residents of the United States. Had Tancredo done so, he would have learned that most of the crew consisted of undocumented immigrants, or “criminal aliens” as he likes to call them. Instead, Tancredo paid the crew $60,000 for its labor and waited innocently for the completion of his elaborate entertainment complex.
Whoops! Maybe Tancredo can fall back on his old excuse for weaselling out of serving in Vietnam - mental illness.


RuralSandi said...

One of Trancredo's strategists/advisers is Bay Buchanan (Pat Buchanan's sister). Both are very "WASPy", extremely right wing idealogues.

Johnathon said...

Everything he said is true.

It's time the USA kicked out the illegal scum and saved billions of dollars in the process.

What exactly in his paper do you disagree with?

He uses facts and dollar amounts.

Of course YOU don't care, seeing your in Canada.

Canada only has 33 million while the USA has 330 million.

Big difference in the two countries.

It's time for the USA to kick out the illegal scumbags that are costing the USA billions of dollars and plenty of lives.

Red Canuck said...

Sandi - Maybe Bay Buchanan has a soft spot for people with pyschiatric disorders. A while back, she published a book in which she suggested Hillary Clinton suffered from some sort of "narcissistic personality style", of course without any proof, medical training or references. You can read about it here.

Anyways, not entirely surprising that the loons are congregating around Tancredo. Birds of a feather and such...

Red Canuck said...

Joannathon - What exactly in his paper do you disagree with?


He uses facts and dollar amounts.

Yes. "far fewer" and "dramatic decline" are plucked straight from the pages of scientific journals. As for the rest of his supposed numbers, where do you suppose he got those? I didn't see any references, did you? Or do you just believe any random shit that people throw down on a page?

Let me give you an example - your brain is 11.86% the size of a normal human brain. See how easy that was? Wheee!

And I haven't even touched on the fact that his "analysis" is so childish and unidimensional, it's hard to believe it came from a fully grown adult. I'm tempted to spell this out for you, but frankly it would be wasted exercise. Nuances are probably not your strongsuit, and I've got better things to do.

Johnathon said...

Are you trying to say the illegal immigrant didn't kill the police officer?

Are you trying to say that illegal scum don't bring drugs into the USA?

What are you saying?

That illegal scum do nothing wrong in the USA?

Dream on buddy.

Illegal scum broke the law and should be sent home ASAP.

What part of 'broke the law' don't you understand?

Or is it that you like seeing America suffer at the hands of these scumbags?

I think that anytime an American gets killed by the illegal scumbags that you say "Oh Well".

Grow up, illegal scumbags have NO RIGHT to be in the USA.

Could you imagine 12 million ILLEGAL ALIENS in Canada?

Why is it o.k in your mind for 12 million retards to be in the USA?

Imagine if they all came to Canada?

This country would be destroyed.


Is that a lie?

Johnathon said...

If you want the facts from Harvard scholars who have studied this issue, let me know.

I would post it here, but there are so many that it would take me a day to do it.

However, if you want me to, I will.

Red Canuck said...

Joannathon - I'll try to be polite and brief about this for your edification.

Are you trying to say the illegal immigrant didn't kill the police officer?

No. Illegal immigrants have killed people. So have American citizens. So have white people. So have black people. So have men. So have women. So have Jews. So have Christians. If you deport any of these groups, their contribution to crime, health care costs etc. will be affected. Trying to frame a bigoted argument in economic terms doesn't make it any less of a bigoted argument.

The issue of illegal immigration is multi-dimensional. It has to do with economic pressures, a flawed and overwhelmed immigration process, the human need to escape abject poverty, misery and persecution and to achieve some measure of self worth, to name but a few. Read this. Or don't. I suspect that if your best intellectual output in this matter is to refer to illegal immigrants as "scumbags" and "retards", opening your eyes to more complex possibilities will be an exercise in futility.

Red Canuck said...

Oh, and then there's the fact that Tancredo used a group of illegal immigrants to build his own goddamn house!

Red Tory said...

Oh dear, you've got the pleasure of Fred's company I see. Well, there goes the neighbourhood. ;)

Tancredo is a kook. He famously suggested that bombing Mecca would be a good idea. QED on his insanity right there.

Red Canuck said...

RT - Yes, I remember that well. Olbermann had a good rant on Tancredo's obsession with the politics of fear. You have to be pretty nutty to be trailing the pack of Konservative Kooks the Republicans have going for them right now.

As for Fred, I blame you for this! :) Blogging Tories abhor a vaccum!

Johnathon said...

So lets see here.

Here are some facts for you.

On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. The report contained information on the number of criminal aliens incarcerated, their country of citizenship or country of birth, and the cost to incarcerate them. Congress also requested that the Government Accounting Office provide information on the criminal history of aliens incarcerated in federal and state prisons or local jails who had entered the country illegally.

In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990.

They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.

About 45 percent of all offenses were drug or immigration offenses. About 15 percent were property-related offenses such as burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and property damage. About 12 percent were for violent offenses such as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. The balance was for such other offenses as traffic violations, including driving under the influence; fraud--including forgery and counterfeiting; weapons violations; and obstruction of justice. Eighty percent of all arrests occurred in three states--California, Texas, and Arizona. Specifically, about 58 percent of all arrests occurred in California, 14 percent in Texas, and 8 percent in Arizona.


Government Accounting Office, US Department of Justice, National Security Institute.

So ,dummy, are you saying these FACTS are wrong?

You gotta grow up buddy. Because your a POLITICALLY CORRECT liberal, you assume that there is nothing wrong with 12 million illegal aliens living in the USA.

Just because you ignore all the evidence, that doesn't make you correct.

Your wrong about this issue.

Johnathon said...

Here ya go smarty-pants.

1.4 illegal aliens gang-rape woman in NYC
Victim: They attacked like 'pack of wild wolves in search of their prey'

2.Jury finds illegal immigrant guilty of Annaville rape

3. 6 indicted
for rape in

4. North Carolina Woman Gang Raped By Seven Illegal Aliens

5. Mexican Day Laborers Rape & Stab Woman 75 Times 9.26.07

6. Illegal aliens are also partial to gang rape, as an 18-year-old woman in Immokalee, Florida, found out in October 2005. Fourteen illegal aliens dragged her from her home into a residence across the street.

7.Fontana, California, an illegal alien kidnapped, raped, and sodomized a four-year-old girl, then tossed her over a six-foot wall. The Press-Enterprise of Riverside reported that, in addition to suffering three facial fractures, “the child required surgery to repair damage caused by the rape and sodomy.”

8. Gainsville, Florida, in June that year, an illegal alien, whose nom de crime is “Revolver,” raped and strangled four-year-old Esmerelda Nava.

9.illegal immigrant, Maximiliano C. Esparza, attacked two nuns as they were walking along a bike path, praying the rosary. Head-butting one of them, he used their rosaries to choke them while he raped them. When he was finished killing Sr. Helen Chaska, the sacramental was embedded in her neck.

9. Charged with molesting a 12-year-old girl, Juan Leonardo Qunitero had been deported back to Mexico in 1999 as an illegal alien. Nevertheless, last week, he was back in the U.S., living comfortably in a city that prohibited police from asking anyone about their immigration status.

10.Rodney Johnson was a 12-year veteran on the Houston police force. Married with five children, he was big, kind-hearted and unafraid of working the toughest gang beats or late-night shifts.

On Thursday, Sept. 21, around 5:30 p.m., he pulled over a white Ford pickup driving 50 mph in a 30 mph zone in what should have been a routine traffic stop. The driver, Quintero, had neither a driver's license nor any other identification so, after a pat down, Johnson handcuffed him and placed him in the back of his patrol car. But Johnson missed the gun in Quintero's waistband. The prisoner pulled it out and fired four times at Johnson at close range.


11. In Denver, Raul Gomez-Garcia, another illegal alien charged with shooting two police officers at a crowded party where both the gunmen's wife and 2-year-old daughter were seated, was convicted last week.

Gomez-Garcia, 21, faced trial in Denver District Court for second-degree murder of Denver police officer Donald "Donnie" Young and attempted first-degree murder of Detective Jack Bishop. The two officers were shot in the back May 8, 2005, as they worked security at an invitation-only baptismal party.


12. one of the most dramatic stories of a police officer being shot by an illegal alien is the case of shooting Arizona sheriff's deputy Sean Pearce, an 11-year veteran of the force who served a search warrant Dec. 16, 2004, at a Mesa trailer home.

Hiding behind a Christmas tree inside was Jorge Luis Guerra Vargas, a 22-year-old illegal alien who opened fire on Pearce

13. Deputy Brandon "Brandy" Winfield, 29, of the Marion County, Ohio, sheriff's department, was murdered Oct. 17, 2004. Winfield was on routine patrol when he stopped to assist what he thought was a stranded motorist. Winfield later was found shot in the head in his vehicle, which had hit a guard rail and flipped into a ravine. Both of those charges in the crime were illegal aliens.

14. Detective Hugo Arango, 24, of the Doroville, Ga., police department, was murdered May 13, 2000. Arango was shot and killed after having been flagged down by a club patron who indicated that some men had been breaking into cars outside of a nightclub. Detective Arango located three suspects and detained them. As he searched for weapons, Bautista Ramirez, an illegal alien from Mexico, shot Arango four times. The first shot took off one of his fingers, the second went through his thigh. As Arango lay on the ground helpless, Ramirez intentionally fired one round through Arango's badge, and then executed him with a shot to his head that severed his brain stem.

15.National Park Service ranger Kristopher "Kriss" Eggle, 28, was murdered Aug. 9, 2002. Ranger Eggle was shot and killed in the line of duty at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument while pursuing members of a drug cartel hit squad which fled into the U.S. after committing a string of murders in Mexico.

16.Deputy Saul Gallegos

Deputy Saul Gallegos, 35, of the Chelan County, Wash., sheriff's department was murdered June 26, 2003. Gallegos was shot and killed after stopping a vehicle in a routine traffic stop. Jose Sanchez-Guillen, 22, who had been deported three times to Mexico, was found guilty of aggravated first-degree murder.

17. Deputy Sheriff David March

Deputy Sheriff David March, 33, of the Los Angeles County sheriff's department, was murdered April 29, 2002. March was on routine patrol when he made a traffic stop. The driver, Armando Garcia, shot March in the chest and the head – execution style. Garcia had been deported three times, had a long history of drug charges, violent crimes and weapons charges. The illegal alien from Mexico was already wanted for two attempted murders.

18. Officer Tony Zeppetella, 27, of the Oceanside, Calif., police department, was murdered June 13, 2003. Zeppetella stopped Adrien George Camacho for a traffic violation. Camacho pulled out a gun and shot the officer. Camacho then pistol-whipped the injured officer before shooting him again, killing him with the officer's own gun. Camacho is an illegal alien and gang member from Mexico with a criminal history that includes five previous felony convictions and several deportations.

19. A Huntsville, Ala., police officer, Daniel Howard Golden, 27, was shot multiple times by Benito Albarran, 31, an illegal immigrant in August





Red Tory said...

RC — Heh. So it would seem, although how then to explain the one that exists between their ears...

Anyway, good luck with the troll.

Johnathon said...

Hey red Tory.

Would the deaths of 20 police officers at the hands of illegal aliens be acceptable in Canada?

I doubt it.

MD said...

All of the republican candidates are competing to see who can make the most asinine possible statement about America's "broken borders." But if the Republicans hold the White House in 2008(which I think is much more likely than it seems right now), I suspect realism will win the day. Even George Bush appreciates that trying to instantly eviscerate the undocumented economy is not a good idea, and he doesn't appreciate much. The more concerning thing about Tancredo is the social effect of his rhetoric, particularly regarding things like the MinuteMan project. I don't know how many regular Americans are terrified of "12 million the USA", but the more that are, the more divided their society will become.

Bowler said...

Oh my, Red Tory retires and all hell brakes loose on this nice, civillized little blog.

Johnathon, all you have proven with your "facts" from the US DOJ study is that incarcerated criminals have been convicted of crimes! Some of them even violent crimes! Whoa.

What if this were happening in Canada? What if our prisoners were also in prison because they were convicted of criminal offences too! LOL!

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Johnathon sucks conservative dick... said...

Jeez whatt a prolific copy and paster that Fred is.

Red Canuck said...

Bowler - My thoughts exactly. Strangely, once my eyes stopped bleeding after reading Joannathan's cut & paste diatribe, I had an odd image in my head about trying to illuminate a massive, dark, dank cave with a small Bic lighter. I decided it wasn't worth my while trying.

Red Canuck said...

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Red Tory said...

At Air America we used to call it Troll-B-Gone® and various posters would spray it “liberally” all over the place to fumigate the thread after pests like Fred had been around leaving their droppings.

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